Top Lawyers Agree: Elon Musk Is Fighting For Humanity And Believes The Solution Is Bigger Population — Not Smaller

00:00 I think Elon Musk is an independent actor, and he's continued to prove his capacity as an independent actor. And the biggest gap, you pointed this out, the biggest gap between Elon and the entire globalist elite establishment is that Elon believes we need to have population growth, that we need to celebrate humanity, not suppress humanity, not reduce the number of humans in the world, but increase it. He's made a little contribution of his own accord in that regard. So he believes humans are good because we can build something that's anti-human. Why not decide to build it the way we want? Not just say, oh robots, humans are done, you've all know Harari. No, no, no, no. We decide we're building a human future.

00:44 Precisely. He's an he's he's ultra humanist in that respect. So the that he believes the foundation of the future of happiness for the world is more human beings, more humanity. And he believes free speech, free thought, free debate, free ideas are also a critical and essential and integral component of that. And that's where he has a deep divide between him and the globalist elite. That's the core of the divide. So Elon Musk is pro-humanity. Speak to that because I'm going to put this clip out on X. And it's true. I can't deny it. If it's real, I'm going to back it. He is literally the number one champion of pro-humanity. I wish Trump would pick up on what Elon's saying.

01:21 Absolutely, because when Elon is one of the only people in the entire political elite, if you will, someone with institutional influence or power, who's saying, well, this population shrinkage is bad. We don't want to be reducing the number of humans that exist. We need to be increasing the number of humans that exist. We have a population problem. We have a labor replacement problem. Places like China, places like Japan, that have gone along with this globalist agenda are now experiencing it economically. And you're right, and China has abandoned one child. Yes, exactly. And so I think what you're seeing is Musk is a key person saying to protect humanity, we must celebrate humanity. In order to celebrate humanity, we need more humanity, not less humanity. And that is the big gap between him and the Bill Gates's of the world, him and the George Soros's of the world. And let's not forget George Soros tried to short Tesla stock. So, you know, I mean, Musk has been oppositional to this entire elite establishment in certain

02:19 four key areas of human growth. Because what you've often said, it's not about Republican, Democrat, Independent, this, that or the other. It's about are you pro-humanity or are you anti-humanity? And in that battle, Elon Musk is a critical ally on the pro-humanity side. I mean, set aside all of the tyrannical measures the government has imposed, locking people down, stripping us of our charter rights, which are not worth the digital paper that they're printed on. Canada has now become the euthanasia mercy killing hotspot of the world. It's now, I think in Quebec, it was at one point in the last year, the third leading cause of death. This is the government expanding euthanasia to the mentally ill, talking about expanding it to drug addicts. The population apparently tolerating the idea of expanding it to the homeless. And it was the third leading cause of death in Quebec

03:10 In Canada, I don't know if people know this, 4.1% of all death in Canada is government administered euthanasia, mercy killing, or as they like to call it, medical assistance in dying. My take is that it's also quite related to China's aspirations for global dominance. I mean, whether or not the WHO is indebted to China or controlled by China, these policies are directed at the West. And they use and exploit the positions of power of the politicians they have in the West to implement these policies. Not an accident that you know the tick tock algorithms in the West are radically different than the tick tock algorithms in China. They're pushing all this stuff to basically devastate and demoralize Western society with the aid and assistance of people who I genuinely believe and I think we've got decent evidence. To support the policies that

03:57 They're indebted to, controlled by, or subordinate to such higher powers. You got Joe Biden who I wouldn't deny for a second is indebted to or blackmailed by foreign interests to implement these policies in the West. Demoralize, open borders, allow for an invasion from within. You got Justin Trudeau, the cabinet has been penetrated already by the globalist interest. And all of these policies, they're directed at bankrupting, demoralizing, and destroying Western societies. And I think it's just to facilitate a broader takeover that is being led by I believe, say globalist Chinese interests, if I can be so bold. Absolutely, and the Amish are the ultimate alternative control group. They're the group that's outside of big tech, they're outside of big food, they're outside of big pharma. They don't send their kids to the public schools. So consequently, we get to see what would life be like if we live the way our founders did.

04:52 And what do we see with the Amish? They have much lower rates of cancer, much lower rates of autism, much lower rates of a wide range of diseases, much lower rates of obesity, much lower rates of anxiety, much lower rates of depression, much higher rates of self-reported satisfaction in their jobs, their careers, their lives, much higher levels of family unity, much higher levels of all the things we desire as good as human beings. So that's why they're gonna try to, Amos Miller's great crime, was trying to export the Amish way of life to everyone else through food. And that's why they don't want the Amish to exist. And they're going to use the Amish as their own example, try to take them out. It's not just they put on a bogus show trial on the damages. What it does, and anybody who lived through your sham of a kangaroo court trial knows,

05:39 In retrospect, people think that there was a trial. People's fake memories of the events are to the effect that, well, Alex Jones had a trial. And then you tell them that, no, he didn't have a trial on the merits. And they don't understand it because their memory, which has become part of their identity, is to the effect that he had a trial. He was found liable, because it was civil, after a trial, which never happened. In three years from now, depending on how the next year writes out, people are going to say, well, Trump had a trial. No, he didn't. He didn't have a trial because the judge came to this finding by summary judgment, came to the conclusion that there was no need for a jury trial because of some rule of procedure that would have denied him a jury trial anyhow. And the month and a half trial was only on the culpability? And then people are gonna say, well, he had a month and a half trial, he presented his defenses. No, he didn't. And people watching this month and a half trial or listening to it,

06:30 the damages are saying how the hell is he guilty in the first place? Well, too late, he's already been found guilty. And now in retrospect, people are going to think he had a fair trial or a trial at all. That's the long term goal of this, to create false memories in the populace. What would your advice be to Trump right now? Well, credit to him to continue to double down. I mean, double down and exposing this entire law fair for what it is, expose the system for what it is, refuse to be affected, refuse to be impacted, refuse to let the threats get to you. Make them escalate. If they're going to escalate, they're going to do what they're going to do. You can't control that. Don't worry about it. When Tucker asked him, are you worried about death? He's like, no. When they asked Robert Kennedy Jr., are you worried about death? And he said, my father and my uncle understood there are worse things in the world than physical death.

07:16 a moral death, spiritual death, soulful death, these things are worse. And as long as Trump maintains that mindset and mentality, not to be afraid to continue to go forward, he has the backing of millions and millions of people, not only in America, but increasingly around the world. While other networks lie to you about what's happening now, InfoWars tells you the truth about what's happening next. Visit InfoWars.com forward slash show and share the link today. the domestic police state. We're going to be looking at the open borders. We're going to be looking at policy and law. And the feds now admitting in federal court and in documents and even New York Congresswoman Democrats saying, yeah, illegals are voting. Yeah, we're getting more Democrat seats in Congress

08:08 from the census apportionment in the voting districts. We're getting more blue seats. California's got like six, seven new ones the last few years. So this is a big deal. The globalists are making their move on the carbon taxes, making their move on the CBDCs and the ESG corporate governance for the universal credit score and for the social credit score and for the vaccine passport. And now they're saying, Deimos, a new disease X is imminent, it'll kill 20 times what COVID did supposedly. This is the new world order. We've got the UN treaty to take over healthcare and all infrastructure, the UN treaty to go after free speech. We've got the UN treaties that are already in place. Trump pulled out of them, but Biden signed back onto it, even though Congress never ratified.

08:57 UN migration strategy for hundreds of millions to be brought into the West. We have it all. We have the battle plans. And there's nothing more frustrating than seeing this all happen and trying to get even the Republican leadership to understand it. But there is good news. And I mentioned this. Fifth Circuit delivers smack down on Biden DOE efforts to regulate dishwashers, washing machines and all their appliances, banning gas appliances, banning small diesel and gasoline engines. And what did the court say? Well, what does Supreme Court say two years ago? You cannot make law outside of Congress. There is no fourth branch of government sanctioned by the United States Constitution. Federal bureaucrats just can't tell you what kind of appliances you can have, the court declared.

09:48 And why do I mention that? Well, remember Biden when he first stole the election three years ago? He said, we're forgiving all debts for years when it comes to renters. We're just gonna let you stay in housing and not pay rent. Went on for over six months. Most renters, most landlords are very small. They have a job, they've worked hard, they own one property too, they barely can pay the bills. Oh no, somebody could just squat in your apartment or the house indefinitely. And the courts still aren't completely corrupt at the Supreme Court level. They almost got control. They got most of the courts. They said, you can't just run over property rights. But see, they want this crisis. They're not going to forgive you when you're living in some Berkshire Hathaway apartment or you're living in some Black Rock owned apartment. No, it's

10:36 It's all for the little people and they admit that. So this is a criminal takeover. But the good news is it's all illegal. So if we simply educate ourselves and take back our local courts and take back our system and kick out all these Soros prosecutors that let hardened criminals out of jail or people that shoot people out on bond in one day and then let them go. We remove all these people, we can go back to justice and that's happening across the country. So it's a very exciting time to be alive. We separately have Sweden's defense ministry saying we're gonna have war with Russia, creating a panic. Russia says we don't want Sweden, go ahead and join NATO. Putin says fine, Ukraine's been part of Russia traditionally, you can't do that. So that's a smattering of what we've got. We've got the election, we've got the prosecutions. We've got Trump coming out at the end of the trial where a judge already said he was guilty. There is no jury.

11:28 And then he couldn't even have closing arguments because they want nothing said on the record. Just like I had judges find me guilty, but at least had a show trial on damages. But then they put a financial expert on for a day and they tell us we don't want your bankruptcy filings. We don't want your tax returns. We don't want your bank account. You can't speak for this day. And this guy gets up who never examined our books and says that man's worth 400 million is the greatest businessman I ever saw. I had $4 million of debt at that time and $3 million. At the time of that, I was $1 million in the hole. Now I'm $4 million in the hole, personally. Free Speech is operating barely in the black. Thanks for your support.

12:05 And I'm sitting there realizing this is just a show trial, and I already knew that, but literally a show trial worse than stuff they even put on in Nazi Germany or North Korea. We got two lawyers to talk about that. And I'm not trying to write myself in the story. I am the story because I was the beta test. I had the biggest populist anti-globalist show five years ago, 30 million people a day conservatively. We're back up to 20 million a day on X. This is seismic. And They knew if they could shut me up and nobody stood up for me, then they'd have the precedent. Now you're there. Now they're coming after Elon Musk. He's come out, I covered it earlier, and said there's a giant tyranny taking over and we've gotta stop it. And the UN and the Deimos Group want tyranny and they wanna shut down anything, any type of speech they don't like. Here it is right here. And you're like, okay, we already know that. Tell the Alex Jones audience something we don't know.

13:01 You've got to be to the point where you're an adult and you've got a kid, you're 25, and your two-year-old tries to put their hand on a hot stove. Skip this break. Just because you know not to put your hand on a hot stove doesn't mean you don't still tell them don't do it. And the general public is like a child that just woke up. Instead of leading them off a cliff like corporate media does, we're trying to lead them into being informed and being strong. And that's the difference between us and corporate media. We make mistakes, not on purpose, they're rare. But we're trying to tell the truth and we want credibility number one. We want the truth. The system doesn't want that and people now know they may not be fully awake, but they know they're being lied to. And that's why all the top shows including Robert Barnes and Viva Fries program is so incredibly popular and has exploded from being popular to super popular because people have a hunger. And so the system knows that so they're coming in with the EU and the Justice Department for Elon Musk. And I keep going back to Musk because he's

14:01 seismically doing more to damage the globalist than Trump even has because he understands it better than Trump. So gentlemen, I didn't talk to you before you came on. I just asked you to come on last week. You both come on today. We're going to skip some of the breaks so we have more time. I just threw out a giant pantheon of issues that are all interconnected. You can take one of those and start there or you can bring up a totally different subject. But I can't wait to talk to you today. And then later on in the next hour, we'll open the phones up for questions for you two great men. Alex, thanks for having us back on. when they illegally authorize the COVID-19 vaccine for little kids. I mean, to this very day, the only basis for anyone under the age of 12 to receive the COVID-19 vaccine or any of the booster shots is an emergency use authorization. I mean, here we are, what, four years? Year four, year five into this so-called emergency? And yet somehow this is still being allowed as a basis to inject six-month-olds, two-year-olds, toddlers, four-year-olds?

15:12 I mean, in some cases, I mean, Jones Health Defense is bringing this claim on behalf of not only parents and children all across the country, but particularly children in Texas, for example, who are in conservatorships, who are in fact often vaccinated against their informed consent under this COVID-19 vaccine. So here in the what the district court ruled in Texas is that nobody can sue. Nobody can sue the FDA. The FDA is above the law, beyond the law. And so we're here before the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals saying that cannot be the law. And we'll find out soon enough whether or not it is or isn't the law. And if the Fifth Circuit doesn't make a good decision, we'll go to the Supreme Court of the United States. And I want to say something before we go to Viva Frye here and both of you. I love how I just threw out 20 topics and you guys came up with one even better. And that is you're the man in the arena with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., with lawsuits all over the country, moving forward to expose this experimental fraudulent shot. And yeah, they got liability, quote.

14:01 seismically doing more to damage the globalist than Trump even has because he understands it better than Trump. So gentlemen, I didn't talk to you before you came on. I just asked you to come on last week. You both come on today. We're going to skip some of the breaks so we have more time. I just threw out a giant pantheon of issues that are all interconnected. You can take one of those and start there or you can bring up a totally different subject. But I can't wait to talk to you today. And then later on in the next hour, we'll open the phones up for questions for you two great men. Alex, thanks for having us back on. when they illegally authorize the COVID-19 vaccine for little kids. I mean, to this very day, the only basis for anyone under the age of 12 to receive the COVID-19 vaccine or any of the booster shots is an emergency use authorization. I mean, here we are, what, four years? Year four, year five into this so-called emergency? And yet somehow this is still being allowed as a basis to inject six-month-olds, two-year-olds, toddlers, four-year-olds?

15:12 I mean, in some cases, I mean, Jones Health Defense is bringing this claim on behalf of not only parents and children all across the country, but particularly children in Texas, for example, who are in conservatorships, who are in fact often vaccinated against their informed consent under this COVID-19 vaccine. So here in the what the district court ruled in Texas is that nobody can sue. Nobody can sue the FDA. The FDA is above the law, beyond the law. And so we're here before the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals saying that cannot be the law. And we'll find out soon enough whether or not it is or isn't the law. And if the Fifth Circuit doesn't make a good decision, we'll go to the Supreme Court of the United States. And I want to say something before we go to Viva Frye here and both of you. I love how I just threw out 20 topics and you guys came up with one even better. And that is you're the man in the arena with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., with lawsuits all over the country, moving forward to expose this experimental fraudulent shot. And yeah, they got liability, quote.

16:06 until it's known they lied or engaged in fraud and then they don't, correct? So I love how out of all the topics you brought up a topic where you are in the arena because that's really the answer and now all the news is coming out of 17 million dead from the shots conservatively with the insurance companies admitting it. I mean this is really blowing up in their face. Please continue on that line and then I want to get Viva's take. Yeah, I mean, it's if this goes to the core of it, because the reason we're taking this suit is not only about this dangerous shot that you exposed from the very beginning, Alex, but it goes to the just like your cases were a template for how they're going to treat Donald Trump. Now, the way we're witnessing it, how they're treating January 6th defendants, January 6th defendants with a template for also how they were going to treat Trump.

16:48 They're using these cases. The FDA is trying to claim they can assert emergency power and thereby never be subject to a judicial review ever again. Why are they leaving this emergency tool in place long after no emergency exists? Because they want to prove to the world that they can do this whenever they want. They can just say emergency and all of a sudden there's no judicial review, no constitutional rights, no congressional limitations, and they can take your six month old and stick an experimental drug in him that is more likely to cause harm than good. That's why this case is so critical. It goes way past even COVID. It goes to, and do we have a, as you've often talked about, it goes back to the Weimar Constitution. If we allow an emergency exception to consume all our rights, we don't have any more rights. And let's be clear.

17:37 And let's be clear, while you're at the thousand foot view fighting this and the one foot view, we have the UN treaty that the Biden administration is behind, literally set to take over our rights, our healthcare, Brett Weinstein, others exposing it. I mean, you cannot overstate the emergency exception over everything, over all of our lives, over transportation, over our country by the UN pandemic treaty. Absolutely, well just ask Viva, I mean what has happened in Canada? I mean, eugenics is now official public policy to a certain degree. Yeah, Viva, you can really speak to, the World Economic Forum says,

18:15 that your leader, Trudeau, is the beta test, is their prototype of this. The censorship, the riding over protesters with horses, the grabbing people's bank accounts, the locking people in their houses. And this is what the UN wants to do, that basic dictatorship Trudeau talked about. There's that, I mean, what Robert's alluding to also is the advancing it to the stage of euthanasia, the medical assistance in dying in Canada. I mean, set aside all of the tyrannical measures the government has imposed, locking people down, stripping us of our charter rights, which are not worth the digital paper that they're printed on. Canada's now become the euthanasia, mercy killing hotspot of the world.

17:37 And let's be clear, while you're at the thousand foot view fighting this and the one foot view, we have the UN treaty that the Biden administration is behind, literally set to take over our rights, our healthcare, Brett Weinstein, others exposing it. I mean, you cannot overstate the emergency exception over everything, over all of our lives, over transportation, over our country by the UN pandemic treaty. Absolutely, well just ask Viva, I mean what has happened in Canada? I mean, eugenics is now official public policy to a certain degree. Yeah, Viva, you can really speak to, the World Economic Forum says,

18:15 that your leader, Trudeau, is the beta test, is their prototype of this. The censorship, the riding over protesters with horses, the grabbing people's bank accounts, the locking people in their houses. And this is what the UN wants to do, that basic dictatorship Trudeau talked about. There's that, I mean, what Robert's alluding to also is the advancing it to the stage of euthanasia, the medical assistance in dying in Canada. I mean, set aside all of the tyrannical measures the government has imposed, locking people down, stripping us of our charter rights, which are not worth the digital paper that they're printed on. Canada's now become the euthanasia, mercy killing hotspot of the world.

18:59 It's now, I think in Quebec, it was at one point in the last year, the third leading cause of death. This is the government expanding euthanasia to the mentally ill, talking about expanding it to drug addicts. The population apparently tolerating the idea of expanding it to the homeless. And it was the third leading cause of death in Quebec. 4.1% of all death in Canada is government administered euthanasia, mercy killing, or as they like to call it, medical assistance in dying. I mean, it's tough not to put this all together. I mean, there's a bunch of there and people put them together in terms of identifying what is typically referred to as like the globalist agenda of population reduction. One world order, like a one world government, and then you have to put together a whole bunch of

19:47 And that's what you have going on in real time in Canada where you have Klaus Schwab bragging on a mic. It's the cabinet of Canada and Justin Trudeau. And you have Canada implementing these measures, which can't be seen any other way. Inhumane in any other era. It was a Forbes article. It comes from Forbes, so not me, saying that Justin Trudeau's euthanasia policy echoes of Nazi Germany. You have it in real time. It's in front of everybody's faces, but I think people are too far gone to say enough is enough now because they feel like they've already given up more than they're ever gonna get back. And I'm glad you raised that because I throw out all these topics and then you bring up the fact that they're now telling mentally ill people, now they want minors. So now they're wards of the state, oh, we've decided as the ward to kill this child. I mean, this is outrageous. Now the liberals want to kill the homeless people. There's the headline you mentioned, Mr. Fry.

20:44 Alex, it's even worse. It's even more sinister than that. They want to expand euthanasia to drug addicts and the mentally ill while simultaneously legalizing hard drugs to the general public. There is no other way to avoid connecting those two dots than the government wants you dead literally and will facilitate it in a two-pronged approach. Let's expand euthanasia to the mentally ill, expand it to kids, even if they can't consent. And people joke about post-birth abortion as though that's ridiculous. But can you imagine what euthanizing a child with the absence of the consent of the child is, but only with the consent of the parents? I mean, it's nothing but post-birth abortion.

21:21 post birth abortion. But they legalize euthanasia expanded to the mentally ill drug addicts while legalizing hard narcotics. If there is no way not to connect those two dots. Let me ask you both this day before we get into all the other angles and I'm glad you guys went to that because I don't talk enough about Canada being the world leader in government, a forced suicide or murder, you know the new death camps in the hospitals. Why is the WF and the UN and all of them in concerted efforts going directly to the most dystopic stuff, a mix of Brave New World, 1984, with Silence of the Lambs. Why are they just trying to be the most villainous? Cutting off the energy, banning the cows in the Netherlands, cutting off the fertilizer, dissolving the border, shipping in the fentanyl, transgender pedo time. I mean, why are they completely like a gun to their head being the most evil people they can imagine?

22:17 Robert, you wanna feel this one? Well, I mean, I think fundamentally it's about their, they wanna see what they can get away with. Same reason why the Nazis went nuts as soon as they got power. They wanna see everything they can get away with and how quickly they can get away with it and how they can establish precedent, they can do it again. I mean, the reason, I mean, for example, when I was before the Fifth Circuit yesterday in New Orleans, the courts were like, well, you know, all these vaccine cases that we said were invalid have now been mooted. So now they're no longer good law. Well, you know, that's dangerous for the rest of us. That means they can bring it back at any juncture. So what they're doing in Canada is what they want to do in the entire world. And we know this and we've seen this. It's like, I mean, it's Judgment at Nuremberg. People forget Judgment at Nuremberg, the film,

23:00 talks about it's the judges that are on trial. They were the ones who abandoned the Constitution. They were the one who abandoned people's rights and liberties in Germany. They were the ones who could have been the last line of defense instead were the frontline of assault. And we're seeing the same thing here in the United States. We're seeing the same thing in Canada. We're seeing the same thing in Europe. And we're gonna continue to because we have to push back. They're going to the wall because they know 2024 is the most monumental year in our modern history. You know, even 90% of that, we're still way into tyranny. They want to make it as fantastical, that's in their own manuals, the CIA, and so brutal that it demoralizes us and we give up and just absolutely just rip everything apart to see what they can get away with. But it's not out of strength, it's out of desperation. It's still a desperate gamble.

23:57 My take is that it's also quite related to China's aspirations for global dominance. I mean, whether or not the WHO is indebted to China or controlled by China, what I've noticed is that all of these policies are directed at the West, and they use and exploit the positions of power of the politicians they have in the West to implement these policies. Not an accident that the TikTok algorithms in the West are radically different than the TikTok algorithms in China. They're pushing all of this stuff to basically devastate and demoralize Western society with the aid and assistance of people who I genuinely believe, and I think we've got decent evidence,

24:35 They're indebted to, controlled by, or subordinate to such higher powers. You got Joe Biden, who I wouldn't deny for a second is indebted to or blackmailed by foreign interests to implement these policies in the West. Demoralize, open borders, allow for an invasion from within. You got Justin Trudeau, the cabinet has been penetrated already by the globalist interest. And all of these policies, they're directed at bankrupting, demoralizing and destroying Western societies. And I think it's just to facilitate a broader takeover that is being led by, I believe, say, globalist Chinese interests, if I can be so bold.

25:12 No, you're right. And people say, oh, don't just blame the Chinese. No, no. They were totally under globalist control. 90% of them didn't have running water or electricity until Nixon made the deal with Kissinger. And then it was given one-sided trade deals, built up, and then broke in the middle of the Obama administration and went against the West while China still funds Hollywood, still owns most of the major studios. But they're not in command of the studios, but their hatred of freedom and of Christians and of families matches that of the folks that do control Hollywood. China owns Hollywood. They don't fully control it, but the two groups are together. And so this is simply a weapons system to bring down the West to make China the more favorable investment area because we are in collapse.

25:57 Completely. And then at the same time, I mean, for example, I just received a so-called detention order of Amos Miller's Food, the Amish farmer in Pennsylvania, that appears to be a lawless order. I mean, why are they taking away? Right now we have food problems all across America, all across the world, where people don't get the food that they need. In some cases, people are deprived or have serious nutrition issues. And yet Amos Miller has some of the best food on the planet, and he's not being allowed to give it to anyone. He's not being allowed to sell it to people. He's not being allowed to share it and distribute it to those people who want it. Why? I mean, what's the basis for Pennsylvania? There's nothing wrong identified in any of the food. There's nothing in it that they've sampled that comes back as problematic that I've seen so far.

26:43 I mean, it's food that he has one of the best track records of anybody out there in terms of food safety and food desirability. And yet here you have the state of Pennsylvania prohibiting him from even being able to farm and distribute it to the people who want his food. That's where we're at in the country. We've got to that point, to that And by the way, I want you to talk about the case for people that don't know the details. I want you to heard about it. Raided by the feds, now raided by the locals. The border is wide open, human trafficking, but they've got hundreds of people to keep coming back there up to 30 or 40 at a time to harass him for never having a health problem. for its family for a hundred years there selling locals milk and cheese. And then you see millions of farmers all over Germany, the Netherlands protesting, they're having their nitrogen cut off, they're being given taxes on their fuel, and they say we make the food, we are barely paying our bills, what are you doing? It's a war on food and a war on prosperity to collapse civilization and out of this hell build their new totalitarian system on it. The WEF admits it.

27:45 Absolutely. I mean, it's one of the four pillars of freedom, food freedom, financial freedom, medical freedom, and electoral freedom. If you don't have the means to have your ballot protected, then you don't have the means to control your own government. If you don't have the means to decide what goes into your body in terms of medicine, you don't control your own body. If you don't have the means to control what goes into your own body for food, then basically you're indistinguishable from cattle and chattel. Because if they control and dictate what you put into your body, then what do you control? What do you own? Who are you other than a slave of the system, of the government and of the interest that it protects and promotes. And that's what they're trying to do. Each one of these, they're trying to attack either our financial freedom, our political freedom, our medical freedom or our food freedom because they want control of it. I mean, why is Bill Gates in the business of buying up so much farmland? Why is Bill Gates having all this fake food that he wants to stick down our throats?

28:36 Is it a coincidence he's the same guy who wants to push vaccines on everybody? Is it a coincidence he's the same guy who uses the Rockefellers as his example, that he wants to export to the rest of the world? This goes all the way back to the same globalist elite-driven agenda over centuries, that they want to have complete control. They want to send a physical, psychological, spiritual case and they're gonna do everything possible. All right, gentlemen, I'm always impressed, but this was an incredible 20 minutes we just did. Viva Free, Viva Fry, I love calling him free, because in German it means free. And so I just love that, so I keep calling him free, that's in my head. I love the guy, I know him well, I keep him Viva Free. Viva Fry, Robert Barnes, straight ahead, we're gonna talk about how we stopped this, the election, the borders, so much more, stay with us. We started producing over two years ago with a top independent video game maker, New World Wars.

30:58 Let it now be noted that here in our decision this is what we stand for. Justice, truth, and the value of a single human being. Where were we? Where were we when Hitler began shrieking his hate and reichdom? Where were we when our neighbors were being dragged out in the middle of the night to Dachau? Where were we when they cried out in the night to us? Were we deaf, dumb, blind? I'm gonna go the limit.

31:41 Then not you, not the Pentagon, not God on his throne is gonna make you do it. Who do you think you're talking to? Who the hell do you think you're talking to? My husband was a military man all his life. He was entitled to a soldier's death. He asked for that. That he should be permitted the dignity of a firing squad. You know what happened. He was hanged with the others. It is easy to condemn the German people to speak of the basic flaw in the German character that allowed Hitler to rise to power. At the same time, comfortably, ignore the basic flaw of character that made the Russian sign pacts with him, Winston Churchill praise him, American death threats, profit for him. There was nothing like your trying to make it sound. Did you sit on his lap? Stop it! Stop it! What else do you admit to, Mrs. von? What else?

32:45 I want that you tell me, was she feeble-minded? My mother! I feel it is my duty to point out to the tribunal that the witness is not in control of his mental processes. I know I am not. Since that day, I've been. Well, Robert Barnes mentioned Judgment of Nuremberg, but if you actually read the transcripts of it, the Nazi defense was eugenics in England and the United States, which was true. He got his ideas from us. Eugenics started in England in 1850s, was Galton, Wedgwood, and the Huxley families, who later wrote their grandchildren Brave New World and created the UN.

34:01 So they're another branch of this operation. And I'm glad Viva Frye raised the eugenics in Canada. I mean, it's the worst in the world now. They're killing massive numbers of people, third largest cause of death. the government is, and they tell people that have back pain or are depressed, you'll get another year of funds, but then we want you to sign this form to kill yourself, and they pressure them into killing themselves. Now they want to do it to children, and the mentally ill and the homeless, and again, it's liberal, it's loving. We've got so many other topics to cover, but I want you guys to finish up with that, and then you can bring up any subjects you want. I've got dozens I want to get into. I want to talk about, what would you call this time we're living in as well?

34:46 I mean, you wrote the book after it. I call it The Great Awakening cuz I think we're almost getting there. Just to touch on something Robert touched on, and Alex, Canada, they put out a draft regulation, some federal regulation to give credits to farmers who reduce cow farts. I mean, this is literally what the government is doing is crippling a country like Canada for the benefit of a country like China that is not reducing any emissions whatsoever, but they feel good doing it. And also what Robert's talking about, the feds going after local farmers on the basis that government knows best. Before COVID, I never understood how a society could descend into an era like Nazi Germany where they would literally turn their neighbors in or close their eyes when their neighbors are being called off. I now can totally understand how that happens in a society. Until now, I could never understand how you had under socialism or communism mass starvation

35:36 literally reduce the food supply because they claim the food supply which feeds the world is causing environmental issues. And they want to nationalize basically farming, minimize it, reduce it. I now can see how mass starvation can occur even in today's day and age when you follow idiotic government policy and government that basically wants to nationalize all private enterprise and have full control over everybody's life. That's it. I mean, if you look at the way that the United States is doing it, what totalitarians do at siege, but particularly communist, Lenin and Stalin, they cut off the food for control just like China did with the Cultural Revolution, the Great Leap Forward. And Klaus Schwab talks about cutting off resources. Then they claim it's global warming or man-made climate change doing it. And they admit they're doing it to cause a revolution and end the society we had. This is insane. You've got him photographed in his own office, Klaus Schwab, with a bust of Lenin.

36:37 Exactly. Yeah, you can go further with this. I mean, I was just reading the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture, which has now illegally and unlawfully searched and seized the food at Amos Miller's, a bunch of food at Amos Miller's farm. And I was looking, what the law requires in Pennsylvania is that you're not allowed to seize any food unless you can show after five days that the food is adulterated or misbranded in some meaningful manner. And so I was like, what's the basis for this? None of this food was for commercial sale locally. Some of it was for other people who was other people's food simply being stored at Amos Miller's farm. And none of it was dangerous in any way, shape or form. And they've had the chance to sample and test now. Apparently they've come back with nothing that shows any problem with the food. So I read the order, like how are they prohibiting him

37:30 from how are they prohibiting the people who own that food from eating it as they just issued an order doing? It says that because we, the state of Pennsylvania, didn't give you a particular license or permit to be a food establishment, now that makes the food adulterated. It's utter nonsense. Adulterated food by law in Pennsylvania means something has been added to it that makes it unsafe for human consumption. They're now saying adulterated is if it doesn't have the Pennsylvania approved label from before. That's not what it means. I mean, that's how crazy they're taking our laws. And Robert, meanwhile, if you look at what's happening, they're allowing the adulteration of food everywhere.

38:10 The FDA would always make sure they weren't putting out fake honey or fake olive oil. Now it's almost all fake. So they're launching a revolution against independent farming, which is the most basic way to take control of people. Absolutely. And the Amish are the ultimate alternative control group. They're the group that's outside of big tech, they're outside of big food, they're outside of big pharma. They don't send their kids to the public schools. So consequently we get to see what would life be like if we lived the way our founders did. And what do we see with the Amish? They have much lower rates of cancer, much lower rates of autism, much lower rates of a wide range of diseases, much lower rates of obesity, much lower rates of anxiety, much lower rates of depression, much higher rates of self-reported satisfaction in their jobs, their careers, their lives, much higher levels of family unity, much higher levels of all the things we desire as good as human beings. So that's why they're gonna try to, Amos Miller's great crime,

39:08 was through food. And that's why they don't want the Amish to exist and they're going to use the Amish as their own example, try to take them out. Try to remove their ability to be an example. Because if it catches on, I already drink Mennonite, which is like Amish light. They still have cars and stuff. I already eat Amish eggs almost all the time at home. I have some right over here in the refrigerator. I ask her to grab them. I drink Amish or Mennonite milk And when they do have it, I get Amish beef and it's delicious. And they can't imagine that because again, energy, you cut off fuel to machines and fertilizer to crops, and you cut off the food, you're cutting the energy off to the planet. Viva Fry, how do we stop this?

40:00 I don't wanna be too optimistic. I mean, I think people are starting to wake up. People are starting to say enough is enough. Even those who might have been on board a few years ago. And it's Ruhu Nabadu or Nuhu Rabadu. People can Google it. It says when you fight corruption, it fights back. People are awakening in a way that they have never awakened before, in my personal view. Which explains why the next war being waged is on the dissemination of information and the democratization of information. The Internet was never really this much of a concern. 2016, they started to realize that they had to tamp down on disinformation because it was people talking on the Internet that got Trump elected. Yeah, they were arrogant before, which was really the golden age. They didn't know how big it was, but now they do know they're in trouble.

40:47 Now they know they're in trouble and if you want to look to the test country to the north, Canada, what do you do about it? Well first of all, you buy off the media literally, like people don't necessarily fully appreciate CBC, Radio-Canada, state news agencies. They're funded to the tune of 1.2 billion dollars. Let me interrupt you, I'm going to shut up for 10 minutes. Explain to us, Canada is so key because the WF, the UN, and MEN Other than Australia, it is the perfect test ground of what they want to do here. So a lot of people say, it's this weird built-in selfishness. Who cares what happens in Canada or Australia? No, it's the beta test they admit for all of us, we better look at it.

41:24 I mean, first of all, who cares about Canada? Let's just hypothetically assume Canada becomes a vassal for China. You'll go from not being concerned about the Mexican border to being very concerned about the Canadian border. But just as far as a litmus test, like an experiment goes, a polite disarmed population that is at the mercy of a tyrant. That's what it's gonna look like. How does it work? I mean, A, you disarm the population, you criminalize guns and don't even really resolve the gun violence problem, which only gets worse and worse the more laws and regulation that come down on small arms. Set that aside. Trudeau nationalizes media. You got CBC, Radio Canada, although the law existed pre-Trudeau, so I can't blame him entirely, but he certainly bought them off. You got state media that is funded by taxpayer dollars, which is partisan to a point that it makes Pravda look almost neutral. It makes RT look totally objective.

42:15 Then you got the government offering bailouts to print media because print media is flailing and dying because nobody wants it, nobody likes it. So you buy off the print media with those six $800 million bailout. Then you buy off digital media with COVID ads, with government ads. You know, toe the narrative or we pull our ads. Then you enact legislation such as the online streaming act which is going to create Canadian content requirements on independent creators It's going to regulate the internet the way the Canadian government already regulates television and radio Then you come in with the link tax that I say that one already No, I said the Online Streaming Act. Then you come in with the link tax, which basically is the government saying Google and Meta or Meta and whichever ones they are, Facebook, Meta, Google, they've got to pay a tax to outlets to whom they link through. And what ends up happening is Google then says, okay, well, we'll pay $100 million a year into this pool. And the government's gonna decide which news outlets get their apportionment of the link tax.

43:11 They buy off all media, control, censor the Internet, and this is how they maintain control of the populace. And you damn well better be paying attention south of the border. And let's be clear, they're already doing it before the agreements are signed. Google for at least five, six years is totally controlled, feeds you fake links. I mean, it is crazy. Well, I don't know how that works. All I know is that this was a surreptitious way of funding digital media that the government could not do directly. Make this rubbish law, the Online Streaming Act, the link, no, the link tax, I forget what the name of the law is. And you basically get big enterprise to give, it's piddly, it's $100 million. What is that to Google? Nothing. What is that to failing CBC, CTV, Global News? It's everything. It allows them to get a leg up and tamp down, suppress-. Sure, so dying media, dying corporate media is also

44:00 censoring, helping spotlight, fake fact-checking. We know this relationship. So I want to shift gears to other topics, but in closing on this subject, I'm going to ask you again, because this is key. Are the Globalists winning right now? I think they're losing. Both of you, can you speak to Elon Musk and the wild card that he brings to this? Robert, take this one away. Sure, yeah. I mean, I think Elon Musk is an independent actor and he's continued to prove his capacity as an independent actor. And the biggest gap, you pointed this out, the biggest gap between Elon and the entire globalist elite establishment is that Elon believes we need to have population growth, that we need to celebrate humanity, not suppress humanity, not reduce the number of humans in the world, but increase it. He's made a little contribution of his own accord in that regard.

44:52 So he believes humans are good because we can build something that's anti-human. Why not decide to build it the way we want? Not just say, oh robots, humans are done, you've all know Harari. No, no, no, no. We decide we're building a human future. Precisely. He's an he's he's ultra humanist in that respect. So the that he believes the foundation of the future of happiness for the world is more human beings, more humanity. And he believes free speech, free thought, free debate, free ideas are also a critical and essential and integral component of that. And that's where he has a deep divide between him and the globalist elite. That's the core of the divide. So Elon Musk is pro-humanity. Speak to that because I'm going to put this clip out on X. And it's true. I can't deny it. If it's real, I'm going to back it. He is literally the number one champion of pro-humanity. I wish Trump would pick up on what Elon's saying.

45:47 Absolutely, because when Elon is one of the only people in the entire political elite, if you will, someone with institutional influence or power, who's saying, well, this population shrinkage is bad. We don't want to be reducing the number of humans that exist. We need to be increasing the number of humans that exist. We have a population problem. We have a labor replacement problem. Places like China, places like Japan that have gone along with this globalist agenda are now experiencing it economically. And you're right, and China has abandoned one child. Yes, exactly. And so I think what you're seeing is Musk is a key person saying to protect humanity, we must celebrate humanity. In order to celebrate humanity, we need more humanity, not less humanity. And that is the big gap between him and the Bill Gates's of the world, him and the George Soros's of the world. And let's not forget George Soros tried to short Tesla stock. So, you know, I mean, Musk has been oppositional to this entire elite establishment in certain

46:44 four key areas of human growth. Because what you've often said, it's not about Republican, Democrat, Independent, this, that or the other. It's about are you pro-humanity or are you anti-humanity? And in that battle, Elon Musk is a critical ally on the pro-humanity side. You know, Frank, I want your take on that, but I want to show you this because this is mine. This is the refrigerator. It's been there for like a week. I've been so busy I forgot to get it because I'm almost out of it. These eggs made by Mennonites in Bastrop, you know, that run it, When I was a kid, eggs never broke up when you split them. They weren't all runny. Now they feed chickens crap. Almost all the new corporate eggs are just crud. These things are dark orange. They're delicious. They're good for you. This was bought from the evil Amish, basically.

47:32 just look at it and it was less price at the store and it's delicious and how scared are they that I go to a farm or send a crew member to get this for me. This is revolution. Energy is revolution. This right here folks, this is revolution right here. I bet the yolks are ultra rich, ultra yellow. Who was it that said the most revolutionary act you can do is grow a tomato? No, that's it. They're orange. My body knows this was the eggs I got 30 years ago. The new eggs they feed those chickens are like weird runny. They're not even good because they're not real eggs. This is a real egg.

48:11 That's amazing. They don't want people to be independent. You understand going back to Waco, going back to Ruby Ridge, the government does not want people to be independent and not reliant on the government. As far as Elon goes, Alex, you were the last test for Elon to prove whether or not he was genuinely pro free speech in the meaningful sense. A year ago, I remember giving Elon a bit of a hard time because you can't say you're pro free speech and then not bring back Alex Jones onto the platform. I genuinely think he misunderstood the reasons for your deplatforming. And once he understood everything after that Tucker Carlson interview, the writing was on the wall.

48:47 Elon, in as much as people can be skeptical, be skeptical of everybody, but you judge people by their actions, not by their words. And Elon says, you think you're gonna blackmail me with money? Go F yourself, and then makes the act of go F yourself by bringing you back on. He is value added and certainly you can tell that he's their enemy by the way they're going after him. Investigations, lawsuits, all of the lawfare that they use against Trump, that they used against you. So you know that he's a threat to the institution, to the powers that be, and thus far he's been succeeding in his mission. Well, that's right, both of you guys huge on X, we're challenging him constantly. I didn't think he would do it because it's a bridge so far. Right after he said go F yourself, he did this.

49:31 And the criminal investigations, the EU investigations, within a week happened. He said, I know I'll be attacked. I may go to jail for this. He said that. I'm ready to go to jail for free speech. And then he freed me. That, you can't deny that. That was big. Well, and what are you one of the leaders on? I mean, people may know you as a free speech advocate, as a populist advocate, but you have been the global leader against globalism and pro-humanity on the humanitarian front for forever. And that's where he is now taking the lead, and he recognized in you not an adversary, but an ally. He recognized it and he needs as many allies, and we all need as many allies as we can get in an age in which we're going up against this corrupt, corrosive, globalist structure that wants to strip us of our basic rights and liberties and undo everything the American Revolution birthed. And so if we're gonna keep the American Revolution alive, we're gonna keep American liberty alive, we need to form allies wherever we can get them. Exactly, so how do we get behind Elon? Because he's obviously on our team now.

50:31 Instead of being, oh, you know, thanks for giving us back our free, how do we get behind Elon? Well, I think we celebrate the same causes and issues that he deeply cares about. He deeply cares about protecting humanity. He deeply cares about counteracting this population control freak agenda, counteracting these woke lunatics that contaminated and indoctrinated his own child against him, against that child's own best interest, against that child's own humanity. Wokeism at core isn't just- By the way, people don't know about that. His firstborn son, they've got, they're transgendering, they're about to cut him up. That was too far for him, which I agree like you get my flesh, you attack my flesh, you're attacking me. Absolutely. They did that to any of our children. I mean, Viva got to experience it firsthand in Canada. That when they come for your kids is when they really radicalize you. Yeah, we're going to euthanize your kids. It's just like God, it's so evil.

51:25 Yeah, I mean, or in the case of, I mean, he had to experience his kids not being able to go to a bowling alley unless certain people had certain permissions, unless certain people put out their papers. I mean, you know, when you experience Canada's is how you experience how a president- Same thing happened to Joe Rogan. He's totally on our side now because living in California. Yeah. Which is- It glitched out a second ago, so I missed half of what Barron said was my experience in Canada, but I got the bowling part. No, they did put vaccine passports. They're gonna tell me what I gotta put in my kid. And by the way, out of Quebec, where I had a red line, I said if they cross this line, I'm done. They passed a law that removed parental supremacy from the Youth Protection Act. And so now a government bureaucrat gets to decide what's in the child's best interest above and beyond the parents' desires.

52:13 It's madness, but how do you support Elon Musk and Twitter? I genuinely believe we're coming to the point now where economics will win out. I don't know who has the purchasing power when it comes to political demographics, but I suspect I do. And Advertising dollars is how these platforms survive. Support the advertisers and do not support the ones that don't support Elon Musk. Some of these stupid companies say they're gonna pull their ads from Twitter. Don't buy their product. Vote with your feet, vote with your dollar, and use the platforms. Rumble, Twitter, use them, support them, and support those who advertise- By the way, Viva Frye, you're totally right. We still have the power now, that's why they want

52:55 the CBDC, the ESG, the Social Credit Score because then they'll have the power. We still have the power. We've got to use the power of how we vote with our dollars. Absolutely. Continue to shop at Infowarsstore.com. Continue to shop at Amos Miller's Organic Farm. Continue to push back against these people. Because we have the real power. Why are they going crazy and trying to shut down Amos Miller? Because the ordinary person in America refuses to let them do it. Because they continue to go there and support him. Continue to go to Amos Miller Organic Farm and get what they need. Continue to go to the fundraiser by Lancaster Patriots. It's up at Gibson go and support him so he can stay economically afloat. The same is true of Infowars. The lawyers admitted it when they said look these lawsuits aren't designed to actually recompense anybody. These lawsuits are designed to shut Alex Jones down. So please everybody stop going to infowarsstore.com and reward our political law fair so we can take him off the air. They said that at the end of the Connecticut rig case. They said we don't want money

53:53 He said, listeners, we're going to shut Alex Jones down. A year ago, 13 months ago. Don't support him again. And there they are with their own clients claiming they want money. No, it's all about silencing people. The line they can't get through is the ordinary person that's the front of the line. That's the info wars audience That's the Amos Miller supporters. That's the ordinate. That's the Trump backers. These are the people they can't get through We are the front line So if you never forgive never forget you hold the line, then they will not be able to take us out Viva Viva Viva Frye stay there You got a lot to say and I want to get into 2024 the worst

54:31 I want to open the phones up, take some calls for you guys. So we're going to go to break, but real quick, how do people find you guys? Great show you to be a bar. That's it. Exactly. VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com. That's where you can get all the content, all the information, all the links, everything else. Or just search engine Robert Barnes Viva Fry podcast. You'll find it. All right. We'll be right back. Hour number three, straight ahead. 29 years on air. All I've wanted to do was warn the people about the globalist. And I've done the best job I can to tell the truth and be accurate, and we are on record as the most accurate there are. And I've tried to sell products to fund ourselves, unlike other communist revolutionaries that rob banks and kidnap people. We don't do that. We try to bring you products that really work. And ladies and gentlemen, I'm scared of this product, it's so powerful. This is the breakdown product, after your cells process it, of folic acid. Methylfolate with high quality organic,

56:36 I was just gonna make a comment that I was watching MSN coverage of Trump's closing arguments or the closing arguments that he didn't give. And a journalist, I think it was CBS says, Trump's team didn't give closing arguments because the judge quote revoked permission for Trump to give closing arguments. Whether or not there's more nuance to what happened, the insanity that mainstream media is now trying to create the new normal. Where closing arguments in a trial is now a matter of permission that a judge can unilaterally revoke. Alex, we've said it before, they've Alex Jones Donald Trump in this case.

57:14 how obscene and absurd it is. You got Judge N. Goron, who has all the tools to deny a substantive trial on the merits through a summary judgment. And so what you have is a trial on guilt and quantum, just like they did with you, except with you, they got it through default verdict for alleged failure to comply with discovery. They are-. By the way, I'm glad you raised this because we're going to recover this the next segment, some station will cover this. I was going to lead the interview with this because I'm watching the whole thing. The judge finds him guilty, says before, there's no jury. Now the judge finds him guilty. Even though it's ceremonial, he says you have no speech to even say anything on the record. That's beyond a fake trial, isn't it? Robert, take this one away. Absolutely. I mean, it's basically, yes, I mean, well, we warned everybody. We said, you can think whatever you want about Alex Jones. What they're doing to Alex Jones and Infowars is what they're going to do to the rest of us. They're now doing it to the President of the United States.

58:10 that it's weaponized lawfare. They're denying him his basic right to due process of law. They're denying him his right to a trial by jury. They're denying him a right to a trial on the merits. That's what they stripped from you. I always ask people, like when I was before the Fifth Circuit yesterday, about the FDA wanting to dodge a trial on the issue of the safety or efficacy of their vaccine. If their vaccine is so safe, why is it that they're so scared of an open trial in front of a federal court? I would welcome that if I thought my vaccine was really safe, really effective, really necessary, really useful. The same is true here. The same is true in your cases. If you are so in the wrong, why were they so scared of a trial on the merits?

58:50 Well, if Donald Trump has done something so bad, why are they so scared of a trial on the merits? Why are they so scared of an actual jury trial? Because they know they're in the wrong. They know there is no basis for what they're doing. These show trials would make the Cuban and Stasi and Soviet show trials look like an honest trial by comparison. They're an embarrassment to America, they're an embarrassment to the rule of law, and they're an embarrassment to justice in America. And at some point, we need a judgment in Nuremberg Part 2. Some of these rogue judges that are ignoring their constitutional oaths, they need to be the ones subject to trial. They want to get up there and grandstand like they did in the DC circuit about Trump's presidential immunity, when the only guy to actually ever use a US military to assassinate his political opponents is named Barack Hussein Obama, then it's time that we have broader sense of consequence. Maybe we need to return to those judgment in Nuremberg and everybody that's been complicit in the violation of our rights and liberties put on trial for that violation.

59:50 Biba Frey, I'm gonna come back to you after a one minute break. But I wanna ask a question, I don't know the answer to. Trump derangement syndrome, whatever it is, we know Soros has these big meetings and parties and conferences. But how did they get, not just here, but around the Western world, the lawyers to become weaponized and do all this with the judges? Because it's just unprecedented, it's like overnight, Courts had problems before, but now courts are doing things they never did in the past. They are just, a judge found Trump guilty in New York, and then now, excuse me, I was eating a piece of pizza during the break. He's going to rule on Trump after he already said Trump's guilty? It's all hoping the public's not paying attention. Back in 60 seconds. All right, we got two really smart

1:00:45 political analysts and pundits and lawyers, Robert Barnes and Viva Frye. And they keep bringing it up. So I'm going to play the clip. Trump has had this civil trial where the judge finds him guilty. There's no jury since when did that happen? And Trump continually can't put on his own defense. Now he can't have closing arguments. And it's just like all the other trials we're seeing. When did this start? Because now it's everywhere. And how do we respond to it? Because here's Trump saying I'm already found guilty by this judge. He says I'm guilty up front. We have the show trial. I can't put on evidence, but they still want the vestigial image of a trial. Here's a clip of Trump. Well, thank you very much. As you know, we consider this an unconstitutional witch hunt. It's election interference at the highest level. It's a disgrace. It's in coordination with the White House and Joe Biden.

1:01:46 And we're going to do it, but it is indeed a terrible weekend. We're going to have a news conference a little bit later on. As you know, I want to speak, I want to make the summation. At this moment, the judge is not letting me make the summation because I'll bring up things that he doesn't want to hear. And it's a very unfair trial. Nobody's seen anything like this. I don't think they've ever seen anything like this. We have a situation where a statute was used that doesn't give me a jury, so I have no jury. I really have no rights, and it's... And nobody, nobody thinks it's constitutional people. Illegal scholars are writing about it like it's something they've never seen before. So it's interference, it's political interference, and it's something that shouldn't be allowed. So I am hoping to speak and to help my lawyers reveal all of the

1:02:39 Defects of this case should have never been brought. Let's stop right there. I mean like Trump says is true never before seen now it's everywhere though where judges find you guilty then they decide how guilty and their political hacks that tell their students so I'm gonna go out for Republicans I don't care about juries and all the rest of it. Where does this end? Viva Frye, Robert Barnes. Alex, it's actually one step more insidious than that. And Robert, I know where Robert's gonna go with where this goes and I'll leave him take that. It's not just they put on a bogus show trial on the damages. What it does, and anybody who lived through your sham of a kangaroo court trial knows,

1:03:21 In retrospect, people think that there was a trial. People's fake memories of the events are to the effect that, well, Alex Jones had a trial. And then you tell them that, no, he didn't have a trial on the merits. And they don't understand it because their memory, which has become part of their identity, is to the effect that he had a trial. He was found liable, because it was civil, after a trial, which never happened. In three years from now, depending on how the next year writes out, people are going to say, well, Trump had a trial. No, he didn't. He didn't have a trial because the judge came to this finding by summary judgment, came to the conclusion that there was no need for a jury trial because of some rule of procedure that would have denied him a jury trial anyhow. And the month and a half trial was only on the culpability? And then people are gonna say, well, he had a month and a half trial, he presented his defenses. No, he didn't. And people watching this month and a half trial or listening to it,

1:02:39 Defects of this case should have never been brought. Let's stop right there. I mean like Trump says is true never before seen now it's everywhere though where judges find you guilty then they decide how guilty and their political hacks that tell their students so I'm gonna go out for Republicans I don't care about juries and all the rest of it. Where does this end? Viva Frye, Robert Barnes. Alex, it's actually one step more insidious than that. And Robert, I know where Robert's gonna go with where this goes and I'll leave him take that. It's not just they put on a bogus show trial on the damages. What it does, and anybody who lived through your sham of a kangaroo court trial knows,

1:03:21 In retrospect, people think that there was a trial. People's fake memories of the events are to the effect that, well, Alex Jones had a trial. And then you tell them that, no, he didn't have a trial on the merits. And they don't understand it because their memory, which has become part of their identity, is to the effect that he had a trial. He was found liable, because it was civil, after a trial, which never happened. In three years from now, depending on how the next year writes out, people are going to say, well, Trump had a trial. No, he didn't. He didn't have a trial because the judge came to this finding by summary judgment, came to the conclusion that there was no need for a jury trial because of some rule of procedure that would have denied him a jury trial anyhow. And the month and a half trial was only on the culpability? And then people are gonna say, well, he had a month and a half trial, he presented his defenses. No, he didn't. And people watching this month and a half trial or listening to it,

1:04:12 the damages are saying how the hell is he guilty in the first place? Well, too late, he's already been found guilty. And now in retrospect, people are going to think he had a fair trial or a trial at all. That's the long term goal of this, to create false memories in the populace. It's a fake impression, it's a show trial. It's what show trial originates. You remember that Alex, that's where the term comes from. A something that looks like a trial, but actually isn't. That's what we're seeing. They've just taken it to a whole new level. They've just taken it to a whole new scale. And they tested it out in your case and now they're doing it to the president and they figure they can do it to Donald Trump, they can do it to anybody anywhere. And it is, you'll probably remember the first total recall movie with Schwarzenegger.

1:04:58 Remember how they doctored the tape to make it look like he ordered things that were exactly the opposite of what he ordered to create a fake impression, a fake memory, a fake story, a fake narrative? That's what they're doing. They have all the, I mean, from your trial in Austin, remember all the movie cameras that were inside that people didn't get to see? They were staring down at the jurors and they were staring down at everyone else. They got all mad because I said this is a trial that's literally a show trial because there's literally a Broadway kind of stage theater taking place with actual movie crews inside the courtroom. And the judge putting her makeup on, I mean it was ridiculous. It's an embarrassment to the rule of law. It's meant to be a fake trial that's disguised as a real trial to deceive the American people into believing one. It's like the election cases in 2020. How many times have you heard, oh, the election cases were all thrown out of court on the merits.

1:05:48 lie, anybody went through it, know that we no signature match check ever occurred. If a signature match check had occurred, the election results would have been thrown out and Donald Trump would have either been declared the president or we would have had another runoff election. So that's the reality that they're trying to disguise and hide and with all of these show trials. But these show trials are truly an embarrassment. The key is the American people are waking up to how bogus and fake these show trials- I totally agree. So let me ask you about this. I'm surprised the appellate courts haven't done something. Where is the Supreme Court? I mean, this is just open lawlessness, just like the FBI has destroyed its credibility, the Justice Department. Now the judiciary is burning down in front of our eyes. What do you expect the Supreme Court to do?

1:06:31 They have to step in. If they don't, they will permanently impair the credibility and integrity of the entire judicial branch as a branch of government. And maybe it's the case that our judicial branch just doesn't live up to its constitutional expectation and obligation. Maybe we need to reconsider how we apportion power in America. I think fundamentally we need to reinstate real power of juries, including to determine the law as well as the facts, if we're going to return to the meaning of the original Seventh Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. But putting that aside, if the judiciary is going to save itself for any future role that has any confidence of the American people, the Supreme Court of the United States must step in and put an end to these charades. Let me ask you about this question then, your prediction.

1:07:17 I think the Supreme Court must overturn this. It's so naked, even seen an analyst admit taking off the ballot and all this is a fraud. But if they don't, then what is Trump's recourse? What is our recourse? I will make the prediction. Prediction is they're gonna overturn the or they're gonna set it straight as relates to all the removal of Trump from the ballots. If they don't, I won't use the words, but if they don't, I don't know what the outcome or the potential outcomes would be. Because where do people turn when the courts have failed them, when politicians have failed them, when the institution has failed them? And has created a country in which 70 plus million people are not having their voices heard on the most important issue, who they get to elect. I mean, I don't know where it would go from there.

1:08:05 As you say, Alex, the answer to 1984 is 1776. We just need to return to the Constitution that established and consecrated 1776. If our courts won't do it, then we'll have to figure out other ways to return. So it's a Declaration of Independence. We've exhausted all other remedies. Absolutely, that's exactly right. And so the courts are either gonna save themselves or they're going to destroy themselves. But it's gonna be in the power of the Supreme Court to do so. And I have confidence and at least hope that they will do the right thing. That they will step into the gap, that they will recognize how nuts this is. They'll recognize, I mean, look at what's going on in the Georgia case. It turns out the prosecutor is banging another prosecutor and since shows up- And give it a money.

1:08:47 Oh yeah, giving them tons of cash, it's like a different kind of sugar mama relationship going on there. And then it comes out they were meeting at the White House. I mean, these people can't even figure out how to coordinate a conspiracy in a way that doesn't get exposed within a week or two. Well, that ties into Lloyd Austin, weeks in the hospital lying about it. It just reeks of total incompetence. Absolutely. Just to throw one thing in here though, and it's gonna add a little bit of black pill cynicism. Remember when Sussman literally billed the Clinton campaign to meet with the FBI to give them the bogus dossier report, and he still gets acquitted in DC. I mean, you literally have this outside prosecutor hired unlawfully, allegedly by Fannie Willis. They happen to be stripping each other. She happens to be paying him upwards of a million dollars a year, going on lavish vacations, allegedly.

1:09:40 And he literally bills, what was it? $2,000 days, eight hour days to meet with White House counsel. And you have Joe Biden who says I know nothing about my son's business. We're not involved in any of these prosecutions meeting with the state prosecutors. It's corruption of the highest order. It's insane. Meanwhile, I have federal filings right here and I have clips of Democrat Congress people saying, oh, we need illegal aliens. They're going to give us more Democrat districts. And I've got a federal filing here out of Arizona where they say, yeah, illegal aliens can vote in federal elections. Let's play this clip. This is a New York Congresswoman, federal Congresswoman saying the quiet part out loud. This is Congresswoman Clark. Here it is.

1:08:47 Oh yeah, giving them tons of cash, it's like a different kind of sugar mama relationship going on there. And then it comes out they were meeting at the White House. I mean, these people can't even figure out how to coordinate a conspiracy in a way that doesn't get exposed within a week or two. Well, that ties into Lloyd Austin, weeks in the hospital lying about it. It just reeks of total incompetence. Absolutely. Just to throw one thing in here though, and it's gonna add a little bit of black pill cynicism. Remember when Sussman literally billed the Clinton campaign to meet with the FBI to give them the bogus dossier report, and he still gets acquitted in DC. I mean, you literally have this outside prosecutor hired unlawfully, allegedly by Fannie Willis. They happen to be stripping each other. She happens to be paying him upwards of a million dollars a year, going on lavish vacations, allegedly.

1:09:40 And he literally bills, what was it? $2,000 days, eight hour days to meet with White House counsel. And you have Joe Biden who says I know nothing about my son's business. We're not involved in any of these prosecutions meeting with the state prosecutors. It's corruption of the highest order. It's insane. Meanwhile, I have federal filings right here and I have clips of Democrat Congress people saying, oh, we need illegal aliens. They're going to give us more Democrat districts. And I've got a federal filing here out of Arizona where they say, yeah, illegal aliens can vote in federal elections. Let's play this clip. This is a New York Congresswoman, federal Congresswoman saying the quiet part out loud. This is Congresswoman Clark. Here it is.

1:10:28 I'm from Brooklyn, New York. We have a diaspora that can absorb a significant number of these migrants. And when I hear colleagues talk about the doors of the inn being closed, no room in the inn, I'm saying I need more people in my district just for redistricting purposes. And those members could clearly fit here. They're out in the open now, they don't even care. Who was it that just said that they'll make illegals police and military? I mean, this is how you import a demographic for voting, political demographic, and you create your own private police force and military that is loyal to the government and not to the people. Sure, take illegals, fast track them for citizenship, knowing how they'll vote, and then put them in charge of military and policing. What could possibly go wrong?

1:11:25 So let me ask you this, Viva Frye and Robert Barnes, both lawyers, smart guys, talk shows. You got families, you're sitting there watching this. We've got less than 10 months out from this. What do you think is gonna happen? But what Aviva points out is that basically these are scab citizens, right? Like scab labor tries to break a strike. These are scab, not real citizens trying to break America. And it's not them doing it. It's them doing it at the behest and behalf of the establishment. Elon Musk asked in particular whether that congresswoman's statements is legal. And it's only legal because the right law is not being enforced and because Trump's attempts to make sure our redistricting was only done based on citizen population was not enforced by the courts. Credit to Congressman Thomas Massey, who has proposed legislation and if necessary, a constitutional amendment so that all future apportionment is based on citizenship, not based on importing immigrants for you to represent

1:12:24 unlawfully, in my view, before the United States Congress. But I think we're going to see the Supreme Court has to step in as long as the American people stay awake, as long as the American people stay engaged and involved, as long as the American people are doing things like supporting InfoWars at infowarsstore.com, getting products they like and need, going to Amos Miller Organic Farms, supporting him there. supporting independent content creators across the board, independent information. Then the information is gonna continue to get out there and the American people are gonna continue to stay awake and they are the ultimate check on all of this. They are the ultimate basis by which we can get the courts to do the right thing, other government actors to do the right thing and hopefully get an honest election. And if we get an honest election, we'll get a very different president come 2025. And I think that's gonna be essential.

1:13:15 I was gonna say, in Canada, they're talking about doubling the population by the end of the century. And 97% of population growth now is fueled through immigration, partially because they're inducing the population to kill itself, literally. The great replacement, or no, sorry, the replacement theory, or the great, I don't know what it's called, which is written off as a racist theory. It's replaced with migration official UN policy. It's not a racist theory because it's not a racial theory. It's a political theory and it's real and they're implementing it. Import the votes, import the politics, and you can basically control future elections. You can steal a country from its people. I say from within or from without, but it's

1:13:57 It's not a theory cuz it's confirmed, but it's not racist cuz it's not racial. It is purely political and we're living through it right now. 300,000 illegal immigrants crossing a border in a month. What does that do to a country? Promise them citizenship, fast track to citizenship, amnesty, policing, military, citizenship, and you know how they're gonna vote. It is the political replacement of America and it's in effect right now. This is modern warfare. People say, oh, if UN troops come, I'll fight them. They don't come, they take over the treaties, they take over the borders, they take over the medical response, they take over the censorship. It's all over the news, the UN runs the censorship. We are under a UN coup that our own criminal government set up to transfer power to. I wanna open the phones up for questions for Viva Fry and Robert Barnes here on this live Thursday, January 11th broadcast. The toll free number to join us is 877-422-9000.

1:14:50 789-2539, uncensored, unfiltered, you're on air to millions of people, 877-789-alex-877-789-2539. But we're still like nine minutes to break. Gentlemen, other areas, Ukraine, the Middle East, the dollar, the EU rolling out their central bank digital currency. I mean, it's all happening now. Can you speak to that? No doubt. I mean, I think tomorrow or coming up next week in Iowa, I expect Ron DeSantis to be out of the race, that he's not even going to finish in the top two in Iowa. That he's, that his, we, you know, he got suckered by, George Soros described it over a year ago. Soros said the goal was to get DeSantis to go in to destroy himself as well as to try to damage Trump.

1:15:35 And you predicted that. Hold on, since you bring that, I'm going to play that. Vivek, who's amazing, I think he's on with Roger in the fourth hour. But here's Vivek prediction from today. It's got like 20 million views on X right now. Clip two, here's Vivek prediction. Next up, the Santas have joined Nikki Haley. Here it is. The system wants to narrow this down to a two-horse race between Donald Trump and a puppet who they can control. And it has become increasingly clear that puppet is not a Democrat, it's not even Gavin Newsom, it's Nikki Haley. It's in our own party. Well, today one more step in that plot unfolds. Chris Christie drops out. Next up, I'm going to make a prediction. You're actually going to see Ron DeSantis join Nikki Haley's ticket. He's going to be her VP. The whole game, it's hiding in plain sight. Whatever it takes. And this system will stop at nothing. And I mean nothing.

1:16:24 to eliminate Donald Trump from contention. It's disgusting. But the same people who have said they're not going to actually take a principled stand against Trump's removal from the ballot. Haley and DeSantis are both in that category. Do the math, people. That's next up. Ron DeSantis is after Iowa. Everybody, including Chris Christie, apparently got a phone call from Ron DeSantis. Panicked was the word that Chris Christie used. This is the way the plot's going. Ron may not know this, Ron DeSantis may not know this, but that's what his donors are gonna make him do. That's what's coming next. Ron DeSantis will become Nikki's VP, whether or not Ron knows it, it's not really his choice. He's not the one in charge of that decision. And then the plot continues. We have to open our eyes and not fall into their trap. Our America First agenda cannot end, our movement cannot end with Donald Trump when they take him out from contention. And if you think this system is gonna even let this man get anywhere near the White House,

1:17:14 We need to open our eyes. We need to do the right thing for our country. They are selling us the rope today that they're going to use to hang us tomorrow. Do not fall into the trap, people, and that's why I'm here. I'm just gonna say if he ends up being right, I don't know how long he gets to call himself the smartest man in the room. But he gets to call himself the smartest man in the room for a certain period of time. It makes sense. The only thing I think he's too cynical about is, he says they're not gonna stop at anything to prevent Trump from-. That's what I told him. I told him last week, I said they'll get you too. What do you mean? No, they-. Absolutely, and I think that's what the, we'll see if they're able to continue to prevent him from doing it. Go ahead, Vivan.

1:18:07 If they're gonna stop at nothing for Trump and he gains enough popularity, they'll come after him too. And now that we've seen how they do it, just let's go reassess some of Vivek's previous filings and see if he over inflated some assets so we can try and indict him. We've seen how they've done it with Trump. They can fabricate crimes out of whole cloth. Show me the man, I'll show you the crime, Lavrentiy Beria. They'll go after Vivek. And if he starts making too much sense and starts getting too much traction, it might happen sooner than later. I mean, Vivek is another example that they have too many NEOs in the system. That, you know, he's another one like Elon Musk. I mean, Elon Musk is his own NEO in the system that's unraveling their ability to control the, as long as more and more people- Well, that's right. In the Matrix, there's only one NEO and a bunch of Agent Smiths. There's actually millions of NEOs now.

1:18:58 Exactly, and that's what we need to continue to be. As long as the ordinary person, everybody who goes to Infowarsstore.com is their own version of a Neo. Everybody who supports Amos Miller and Amos Miller Organic Farm is somebody that is their own version of a Neo. The more Neos, the more Edward Snowdens, the more Julian Assanges, the more Alex Jones. You know the meme, I am Alex Jones, with a bunch of people that are Alex Jones going through the system. I am Neo. I am Spartacus. That is the way in which the whole system unravels. It needs control and it can't get control as long as we don't give it to them. The globalists are losing, but they're going to keep doubling down. They're pre-programming race war, false flags, cyber attacks. They got all these movies coming out about civil war. What do you think's going on there?

1:19:44 I think you're right. I think, I mean, a good way to look at film is to look at it's either preconditioning us or it's warning us, right? I mean, remember your friends that did the Lone Gunman show, the X-Files spinoff, that warned us about what was coming with 9-11, that you were warning at the same time. Sometimes it's a warning. Sometimes it's preconditioning. So to try to decipher between the two, look at the overall message of the film. But it often is educational and informative and something we should pay attention to. look to who's producing it and that'll give you a decent indication as to whether or not it's pre-suasion versus foreshadowing or a warning. And now I just forgot what I was going to say. Now I'm going to ask you both, if you could talk to Trump, which I know Robert does, other people do around here, but what would your advice be to Trump right now? Well, credit to him to continue to double down. I mean, double down and exposing this entire law fair for what it is, expose the system for what it is, refuse to be affected, refuse to be impacted, refuse to let the threats get to you.

1:20:42 Make them escalate. If they're going to escalate, they're going to do what they're going to do. You can't control that. Don't worry about it. When Tucker asked him, are you worried about death? He's like, no. When they asked Robert Kennedy Jr., are you worried about death? And he said, my father and my uncle understood there are worse things in the world than physical death. a moral death, spiritual death, soulful death. These things are worse. And as long as Trump maintains that mindset and mentality, not to be afraid to continue to go forward, he has the backing of millions and millions of people, not only in America, but increasingly around the world. That is you talk about anybody who wants peace in Ukraine needs Donald Trump in the White House. Anybody who wants peace in the Middle East needs Donald Trump in the White House.

1:21:21 Anybody who doesn't want global war needs Donald Trump in the White House. Anybody who doesn't want the financial system to completely collapse needs Donald Trump in the White House. So continue to support him. We are the front line. We are the key. The American Revolution succeeded because ordinary people like my great-grandparents participated in it. As long as you continue to be on the front line in every way you can, we will be able to win this. That's right. We're going to break here soon, but in calls. But Viva, you wanted your advice, Trump? I'm not sure that I'm in a position to give Trump any advice. All that I know is that whatever he does, he's gonna get flack for it. He can never do the right thing. He'll always get criticized. And so the only thing is keep doing what I think, keep doing what he thinks is effective and keep doing what he thinks is true. And the people will mobilize peacefully behind the movement and hopefully yield the results that many of us think ought to have been yielded back in 2020. I think it's clear though the establishment's losing and scared right now.

1:22:20 What do you think? I tend to agree and they do say that the cornered animal is the most dangerous. The problem is that they still control a lot of the big levers. And so they still have some tools in their arsenal. And the bigger problem I think is that I genuinely think they would almost be happier ruling over the ashes than allowing the people to exercise their voice. I agree, no, Build Back Better is we're going to rule over ashes. It's not a, I don't think it's your opinion. I think that's their plan. All right, one more time. We're going to come back and take calls. How do people find your great podcast guys and your live shows? Beaver Borns Law.

1:22:58 I, Robin, I'll do it first. VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com. Barnes is Barnes underscore law on Twitter. Robin, what is your Twitter handle? Yeah, at Barnes underscore law. But to be everybody, everything is there at VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com. All right, you guys are awesome. We'll be right back. Stay with us. Winter is coming. Winter is coming. Winter is coming. Winter is coming. Winter is coming. Winter is coming. Winter isn't coming. Winter is here. And while the sun isn't helping us produce as much vitamin D, do yourself a favor and try InfoWars Life Winter Sun Plus. Now back in stock and 40% off at InfoWarsStore.com. Winter Sun Plus is a powerful vitamin D based formula bringing you straight vitamin D3 free of toxic chemicals

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1:24:46 Former high level FBI, former heads of Air Force weapons development, you name it. When I was first getting on air, because there weren't a lot of people that had talk shows, and I was blessed to immediately, after a few years of AXS TV, have the top talk show in Austin. Top ratings all over the news. I had Jay Leno making jokes about me in 1997. And I was putting films out, we were selling hundreds of thousands of VHS and DVD tapes. And people were copying them and millions were going out and we were just blessed to be there up front. But all the old timers said when the enemy launches their operation, the public's gonna get it, but we've got to have them ready. They're not gonna listen until they get hit. And now I saw those old timers, I guess now I know why they were.

1:25:35 you know, the head of the FBI and a whole section of it or the head of Air Force Weapons Development because they were smart and they were playing the long game. And here we are in the long game, folks. We're inside the new order. So I want to go to calls with these great lawyers and great talk show hosts and good friends of mine, Viva Frye and Robert Barnes, and just ask them, what does it feel like to be in this historic moment Where it's all out in the open now. I mean and the Great Awakening is here and it's just so crazy And I wish there was some path where the globalists would just back off and realize they're gonna lose But I got a gut suspicion. They're not gonna give up so I gotta go back to this How would you quantify this time any other key points and then I want to go to these phone calls? Robert start this one

1:26:25 Well, I think we live in a time that's equal to 1776. And it's going to shape not only the future of America, but the future of the world. And what each one of us does in this context, we have to make smart, tactically wise decisions, strategically wise decisions. As my great great granddaddy said, it was Ed Munker Hill, don't shoot until you see the whites of their eyes. That same advice is still true now. We have to be tactically wise and morally principled and continue to act in the right way to make sure the American Revolution and the humanitarian principles it unleashed for the world stay alive because we're facing a true terminal potential threat to liberty and freedom, not only here but globally and for humanity itself. That's what's at stake in 2024. 2024 is the biggest year since 1776 for the future of freedom in the world. Absolutely. Viva.

1:27:18 Warning there don't don't screw up people don't succumb to your darkest desires or the doom pill and Act despair if a dude is in a crowd telling you to go into the capital Chances are they're a fed if someone's encouraging you to do something illegal Chances are they're a fed because they want you to screw up They want you to do something bad something killing a bunch of people on the enemy side only helps them We don't want that This is an info war because this is a modern form of war. It's propaganda. They're having to provocateur violence. Totally do not be involved in any Obi-Wan Kenobi. The force is used for knowledge and defense, never for attack. I love it and the video of you from 2021 saying don't go to the Capitol. It's a trap, it's a setup, have proved prophetic. So that's it, be good, be honest, pursue the truth. Don't succumb to your darkest desires because that's what they want. That's what they're waiting for. And if they have to fabricate it, they will, but make them fabricated instead of you. Let me ask you this, we'll go to calls. Gut level, I think we're gonna win. It's gonna be bloody, it's gonna be nasty. I think the

1:28:21 The area of flux is do we lose billions of people or hundreds of millions or do we, you know, go through some time simulation and fix this easily? I think right now we're going to win. The question is how nasty is it going to get? No doubt, I mean there's gonna be some tough times ahead, but stay focused, stay centered, stay optimistic. I mean that's one of the great gifts that Trump has. Trump's optimism is what empowers him to do often what he does. That, you know, focus on the bright side. Listen to the better angels of our nature. Listen to the brighter light. That's why they hate him because he did listen to that famous self-help guy, I forget his name, when he was a kid. The record's over and over again. He had to buy them repeatedly. It's on record because they would wear out. He just believes in positivity.

1:29:02 Absolutely, you can see how it empowers you. If you go in believing you can make it true, you can in fact make it true. So stay focused on the positive. Remember, there are people around the world who share your same objectives and beliefs and ideas and ideals. They go to Infowarsstore.com every day and support products. They go to Amos Miller Organic Farm. They do these things to keep us alive. We have lots of friends, we have lots of allies. We're finding out in the Vivecs and the Elons, we have some powerful allies in our cause. So continue to march forward, continue to be confident. And as it gets darker, I agree, as it gets darker, we're gonna see the double agents, the Benedict Arnolds. Some of them we thought were great are gonna turn against us, but we'll have a greater number that were on the fence, they're gonna turn for us.

1:29:46 Absolutely. And just so stay on the right side. And if you stay on the right side, hold the line. Never forget, never forgive like Braveheart. Hold that line and we are going to be able to succeed in the end. All right, Viva Frye, quick comment. We're going to call us. I'm not trying to be melodramatic. People, when I was at the Ottawa trucker protest and I said, well, if things fall here, you're gonna go back to your country and they say, I have nowhere to go from here. When countries fall, you don't go back to them. America is the last beacon on that hill and if it falls, there's nowhere else to go. So democracy in the meaningful sense must prevail and three things cannot long be hidden, the sun, the moon and the truth, Buddha, so fingers crossed.

1:30:31 And the Bible says, you know, nothing hidden will ever stay hidden. It will be brought to light today. Let's go to Larry in New York. You're on the air. Go ahead, Larry. Hey, hi, thanks for having me. Yeah, following up on the Matrix analogy, I think the Muslim immigration situation kind of reminds me of the Witch of the Matrix. She was like the Colonial Times version of the Matrix in the third rendition of the virtual reality. Most people don't know about it because she only appeared in the past video game. But the reason I'm bringing this up is because the game has symbology. The only way to defeat the Witch was by unleashing the banshee to scream at her. This is why I'm not freeing the speech. Regardless of what you're saying, even if you're just screaming, is the ultimate weapon. It's kind of like how Tucker Carlson was saying that speech is more powerful than a gun. I used to disagree, but after seeing activists speaking their minds like on InfoWars, I would say that's true. So writing a book is more effective than using a gun. What you're saying, Alex, is right. Don't storm the Capitol. So in the game, the witch was killed by the Colonial Times prisoners, the Matrix, through protest, not by using guns.

1:31:26 Well, I forget who said the pen is mightier than the sword, but we looked that up. Maybe it was Shakespeare, but it really is ahead of time. Once the Civil War and the Bedlam starts, then you know that goes to the side. Anybody that says, I'm going to fight the UN, they're not going to come as soldiers. They're going to come with treaties and control. We're here. Thanks for the call. I mean, is the pen mightier than the sword, Viva Frye? You really think of two movies, Casino and The Running Man, where someone used the pen as a sword. But by and large, it's more effective. But it's true. Once it's time for the sword, the pen, you set it aside. We're not there yet. And if anyone jumps the gun, pun intended, and goes right to the sword when the pen is going to be more effective, it'll be counterproductive, not productive. Well, that's right. The pen forms the whole battle space. We'd like it to win the war and not go to swords. But regardless, pens are more powerful.

1:32:17 Absolutely, and people should remember if we our voices didn't matter, our opinions didn't matter, our ideas didn't matter, our actions didn't matter, they wouldn't go to all these great lengths to try to control what we think and do. Well, that's right. It's the saying nobody knows who said it. The propaganda would not be necessary in the situation was hopeless. Let's go to Ken in Louisiana. Thanks for calling. Go ahead, Kim. Hi, thanks for taking my call. It's about the border. We know according to our constitution that it's done by the state and then the federal. And we gave the federal the responsibility to secure our border. And when they fail to do that, it should fall back to the state. If the governors and sheriffs fail, it falls to the people. At what point did we stop watching this influence and do something?

1:33:00 No, I agree, but it's very hard. That's one of the few powers the feds have for the states to deport people and then the feds are suing them. People have been criticizing Abbott. I've been mad at him for lockdowns, but Abbott's kind of grown a small pair of testicles compared to no testicles before. You guys want to comment on that? I mean, it is an emergency. So if the feds advocate their responsibility and are AWOL, what do the states do? I'll leave that second part to Robert. But can you just imagine the irony that the feds do not enforce immigration laws? The states, the border states, the ones that are dealing with the crisis, try to enact their own legislation. And the feds sue the states for not doing what the feds are doing because it's of the sole exclusive jurisdiction of the feds. And then the Democrats bust them back saying stay in Texas.

1:32:17 Absolutely, and people should remember if we our voices didn't matter, our opinions didn't matter, our ideas didn't matter, our actions didn't matter, they wouldn't go to all these great lengths to try to control what we think and do. Well, that's right. It's the saying nobody knows who said it. The propaganda would not be necessary in the situation was hopeless. Let's go to Ken in Louisiana. Thanks for calling. Go ahead, Kim. Hi, thanks for taking my call. It's about the border. We know according to our constitution that it's done by the state and then the federal. And we gave the federal the responsibility to secure our border. And when they fail to do that, it should fall back to the state. If the governors and sheriffs fail, it falls to the people. At what point did we stop watching this influence and do something?

1:33:00 No, I agree, but it's very hard. That's one of the few powers the feds have for the states to deport people and then the feds are suing them. People have been criticizing Abbott. I've been mad at him for lockdowns, but Abbott's kind of grown a small pair of testicles compared to no testicles before. You guys want to comment on that? I mean, it is an emergency. So if the feds advocate their responsibility and are AWOL, what do the states do? I'll leave that second part to Robert. But can you just imagine the irony that the feds do not enforce immigration laws? The states, the border states, the ones that are dealing with the crisis, try to enact their own legislation. And the feds sue the states for not doing what the feds are doing because it's of the sole exclusive jurisdiction of the feds. And then the Democrats bust them back saying stay in Texas.

1:33:47 And when DeSantis ships them somewhere, that's human trafficking. They can't take them, but they can ship them back to the border states because it's their problem. Ma'am, anything else? Yeah, I mean, traditionally it's tough right now. Kim, real quick, finish, then Barnes is going to respond. Go ahead, Kim. I want to say you're fighting a good fight. Boren's in Louisiana. My mom worked for the federal magistrate for 22 years. And you know, the FDA, the CDC, they were just instituted by Congress as a think tank to give them resources so they could craft legislation. They were never given the ability to mandate or make rules. You know, where did that go wrong? That's the best comment today. They were their advisory to Congress who made them lawmakers.

1:34:31 Yeah, there's supposed to be a labeling agency to make sure that if you bought some corn, it was corn in the can, not kidney beans. And instead, now they're our super doctor, our super scientist, our super everything. And notice now they admit most olive oil, most honey is not even that. I mean, 20 years ago, you go to jail for that. They don't even care about real stuff anymore. Yeah, I mean the USDA food pyramid has been one of the worst designed food advice ever given in the history of man. During the time the USDA and the FDA has acquired more power, we've suffered more disease and shorter life expectancy. Great points, thank you so much. Renee in Canada, you're on the air, go ahead.

1:35:11 Hey guys, good afternoon. My comment is to the WHO treaty and all of the subdued media coverage around it. I mean, they've already come at us with these poison shots. I mean, I've got tons of family and friends that are, you know, vaccine injured and they're basically going to try and take control and already bragging about the disease act. And I'm wondering, you know, you know, when is the tide going to turn with vaccine injuries? And you know, they're giving it to young kids now. That's a great point. Keep going. I mean, literally, I've read the treaty. I've had experts on. Even Brett Weinstein says it's breathtaking. You can't believe it. Total takeover of everything. UN global domination. And then Congress is barely talking about it. I agree. It drives me crazy.

1:35:54 Yeah, I mean then, you know, the fact that they're giving these to infants and stuff like that, I mean, you know, an infant can't speak for themselves. They can't, you know, convey what's out there. It's totally fucked up. It's totally screwed up. It's disgusting. I don't know where we're going to go from there, but to your point earlier about people waking up, I think a lot of people are waking up, and we are taking the fight to the globalists. I mean, it's a big deal, and people need to realize that. You got a question for Aviva Fry or Barnes? No, you guys are great. Well, great point you made though. So give us a little more knowledge. Well, I mean, how did they become legal for the shots? How did they become legal for pregnant people? How did they become legal for her little kids? It seemed like these emergency declaration and it but it's a fraud Barnes. You can speak to that.

1:36:46 Yeah, that's exactly what happened. And they called it, we have an emergency use authorization statute that's designed to respond to a bioweapon. That's where the law came in. It came in under the Anthrax scare back, we remember that, remember Robert Mueller was implicated in all that. There was actually a government insider who was behind all of it the whole time. But the Anthrax scare led to the PrEP Act, which led to Congress saying that, hey, what happens if we face a bioweapon attack? Well, we need some emergency authority to be able to have some countermeasures. Somehow that's what this all is. And then our own government with the UN attacks us for the power. Exactly. I mean, it was a massive power grab. You read the statute, the statute doesn't even talk about, it talks about an emergency for US citizens living abroad in response to a national security. And yet that statute is being used to force vaccine, COVID vaccine. And now they want an official UN treaty to run everything. We've got to kill this treaty. Thank you. That's why we got to get Trump in. Thank you, Renee. Jennifer in Georgia, you're on the air. Go ahead, Jennifer, you're on the air.

1:37:55 Jeffers gone. Let's go to Gary in Nevada Gary around the air Yes, can you hear me yes, sir go ahead yeah, I'm an attorney I've been Studying the Constitution now my basically my entire professional career I've graduated back in the mid 80s been listening to you guys. They I am big fan of Robert Barz's I just wanted One of the one of the biggest pet peeves I've got is every time I hear the word democracy, I think that we're just showing- Yeah, we're a constitutional republic. Well, we are a republic and a lot of conservatives say that, Alex, but they still don't know what they're talking about. When we

1:38:50 tell everybody that we're a constitutional republic, we don't have any idea what we're talking about because democracies are, you know, Madison explained it very clearly. Well, it is mob rule and that's what we have. And, you know, the states were set up to be a double security for the, you know, against federal encroachment But when we moved, well, with the 17th Amendment, making senators popularly elected and when we started going with popular elections with- No, I agree with you. Our republic guards the rights of the minority and I understand that. So, but a lot of people use the term democracy saying why is the WF running things? That at least gets the public to wake up. You're not running your own life. So, I mean, what should we do?

1:39:39 Well, and like I said, you know, some of the earlier caller talked about the pen being mightier than the sword. I've been writing about this on my own, you know, Substack and Facebook for years. I've been trying to write to help people to know what they can do. I mean, you know, we definitely have the right to declare independence. If because of the long train of abuses that we we've got going with our federal government right now, we the state. So I think the best thing to do, because what happened when we when we started going pot, you know, with the democracy bent on things and started popularly electing the president and the senators.

1:40:20 We you know we basically took the power from the states that you know who were supposed to be a check on the federal government And we gave it to the political party. So I imagine you support Congress to summon an amendment to not let states get new Congressional districts out of illegals so that that's basically what's happening. I appreciate your call Robert Barnes, Viva Fri, comment on that. We got to restore the power of the people and restore the power of government at the most local level in order for our constitution to work the way it was intended. Comments on democracy? Go ahead, go ahead. People make the distinction between a democracy and a constitutional republic. People using the terms interchangeably. The problem is today we're on the borderline of not being either a democracy or a constitutional republic in the States. Certainly not in Canada. We are subjects being governed by a political elite who are sheltered from their own decisions. That's right, by stockholders or shareholders as they say in the globalist program.

1:41:21 And we're being conditioned to think that nationalism, because it has the Nazi connotation, is a bad thing. Subordinate our own national interests to international globalist interests. You got Cori Bush on Twitter saying, we need universal healthcare in America, and signs off on sending 200 billion to Ukraine. The people of Lahaina still don't have their homes. I mean, we have been conditioned to think that protecting national interests is a bad thing. And national pride is a bad thing and it's all part of the demoralization. I totally agree. Let's move quick through calls. Mike in Tennessee, you're on the air than wild. Go ahead, Mike. Yeah, the DOJ has said that they're going to go after more January Sixers. I was hoping the attorneys could walk us through what we can expect. Yeah, now they're saying anybody outside the building, which means me. Well, yeah, exactly. What's that signify?

1:42:15 Yeah, and I saw you there too my friend So help us you know we're Christian folk we live paycheck to paycheck. Mr.. Barnes if we get a knock on the door How do we proceed from there? I mean if you're walking down there the bear. I mean you you listen to the speech you go down there The barriers are not even up the The cops are waving you in, you're talking to them, they're not saying that you can't go on the grounds. You go on the grounds and now they're going to come after you? What do we do if we get a knock on the door? Walk us through the entire process of what to do and what not to do.

1:42:52 Well, don't talk to them, number one. Never talk to the cops. I mean, unfortunately, especially the feds, they're completely unreliable. Assert your right to counsel. Try to protect yourself at each stage in terms of being informed about your rights. Don't ever underestimate that. The power of being as self-educated is as critical as anything else. Our constitutional republic was built on that. It was built on people listening and learning. It's like I took the fifth on January 6th committee, not because I was guilty. They wanted to set me up, but they couldn't stand it. Exactly. I mean, the problem they're going to have is people like you went down there to keep people out of the Capitol and said so and it's right on tape. And everybody that went down there that day did not commit a crime. There's no evidence that people saw any signs that said this was trespassed. The security guards were doing just the opposite. They removed the security barriers. They removed all of it. So in my view, 99.9% of the people that were there that day committed no crime. Sure, but the big issue is they want to expand it

1:43:49 on and on and on with the federal offices of the Capitol Police, and they're branding all Trump supporters as terrorists. This just shows it's all they've got, Robert. Completely, and their goal is ultimately to criminalize being a Trump supporter. That's their goal, ultimately. To say everybody who's a Trump supporter is an insurrectionist. Absolutely. Mike, God bless you. Appreciate your call. Wild in Wisconsin. You're on the air. Go ahead. Hi, Freedom Friends. I have a question for Robert Barnes and Diva Fry regarding, no one really talks about it, the implications of the Indian Native American reservations on the border by Eagle Pass, the Kickapoo Indian Reservation and other Indian reservations making money and getting paid in drugs to bring over illegal immigrants en masse. I spoke with drone operators who are working for RFK

1:44:40 And they said almost double the numbers we are getting from border security are coming in through the reservations and what type of military aspects we could have according to the law. There's very specific treaty-based relationships between the Indian tribes and the United States federal government and the state governments that control what they can and cannot do in those circumstances. The bigger problem is the federal government has no interest or incentive under the Biden administration of enforcing our immigration laws. Again, as Viva mentioned, they're suing the states. And as you mentioned, Alex, they're suing the states to prohibit the states from enforcing our immigration laws. So we need systematic and systemic reform. Part of the impeachment of Joe Biden should be over his, as Stephen Miller said yesterday, his illegal complicity and his criminal complicity in the massive illegal immigration into the United States of people who illegally do not belong here and are violating our laws and threatening

1:45:38 But the caller's right, they're using the reservations to do it, which are incredibly corrupt, not the people there. You could have a state blockade of the reservations until they stop, but a larger issue is we need Congress to impeach Mayorkas. I mean, I think that's a good step. Completely. We gotta have some proactive action or we're not gonna have a country in two years. Does that answer your question, Wild? Oh, it sure does. You know, it's at the point where it's an invasion over immigration now. Oh, the border doesn't exist. It's now a springboard, an invasion port. Thank you. All right, we got George, we got Darryl, we got Chad. We'll try to do five more minutes, quick questions, and we start the next hour. And then Roger Stone's gonna take over with all the latest on Iowa, politics, Trump, everything next hour.

1:49:25 and then fullworkshore.com are available at drjonesnaturals.com. All right, we're almost out of time. I want to try to jam some calls in here. But I want to get closing comments from our guests, Pima Frye and Robert Barnes. Georgia, Connecticut wants to talk about legal fight against lockdowns. Go ahead and make your point or ask your question. You're on the air. Yeah, I'm in occupied Democratic territory of Connecticut, which you can all understand that. Oh, yeah. So I'm in senior housing and they're trying to implement the old mass stand bait. They're closing down our little gym here so that people can stay healthy. Oh, I told people in August it's coming back everywhere. Yeah.

1:50:05 So I'm wondering what ways can I maybe hit them with some sort of legal avenue to say, look, open up the gym. That creates more problems. Yes, so you live in senior housing, they're closing your gym, you pay for it. It's an excuse to pull back services. Go ahead, Barnes will answer, but go ahead. Basically what I'm getting at but they want to expand this to the point where you have no, you have to be like in a prison. That's basically what I'm getting at. Yeah, they're trying to bring back the lockdowns everywhere now as I told people. Barnes, what do we do about this? Yeah, well that's why we continue to bring those suits back to the time even when after the rules and restrictions were lifted. We continue to fight them because we knew that they were going to try to do this again, try to do it all over again. So it depends on the circumstance or situation as to what your rights are. Sometimes your property rights are being improperly taken. Sometimes your rights- Well look at St. Louis. They brought it back for two days, had to reverse it last week. Exactly. Sometimes you have religious rights to object. Sometimes you have rights to object based on your medical health. But what about he pays for that gym? Why can't he use it?

1:51:09 I think he could. I think that any effort to deprive him of that is depriving him of a property right. It may be a contract breach. It may be issues that relate to ADA or senior citizens protection, which has separate laws that protect it. So usually there's a way to seek legal relief. But let me ask this question. They're clearly trying to bring it back. Mail-in ballots are still there, but they want the fear, right? Oh, completely. And control. It's all about control. It's always about control. So sir, any other questions? I mean, Connecticut is just super corrupt as we know. Probably one of the most corrupt states in the country, if not the most. But yeah, it's just pure hysteria, pure... Get the seniors together, sign a petition, demand your rent back. They're not giving you a service you paid for.

1:51:50 Bottom line, I think they want to basically scare us into taking more shots, which I think the word's out on just about everybody that this is detrimental. Well, that's it. They're doing it to make you take the boosters. You cut to the chase. Yeah, so that's what I think is going on and I certainly don't want that to happen because let's face it, then they're shedding and even though I didn't take the shots, other people will be shedding off on me or when I get in the elevator. So then they're putting my health at danger. Well, I'm not telling you what to do but even as a layperson, you file a lawsuit on them or threaten them, that'll take money away. They're just being told by their corporate owners, their ESG to do it. So just say, hey, I paid for that damn gym, you're not gonna close it.

1:52:33 Good idea. Thank you very much. You're smarter than I am. I mean, but it really is a real screw job, isn't it? Viva, viva fry closing comments. It's to induce terror. The only problem for the caller, I suspect that he might not have enough public support. Maybe he does. If there's enough support of enough of the residents, you might be able to get somewhere. I suspect the problem is a lot of people like, yeah, I want to be safe. I want to lock them up and give them no services and then next, not let their family come and next put them on ventilators. They want to lock you down. They want prisoners. They want captives. They want hostages. That's exactly the case. And the only way that that doesn't happen is that we collectively continue to resist in every way we possibly can. I mean, listen to that. A man at a retirement home that pays for it, you can't work out because we're keeping you safe. What a load of shit. I mean, that is so obviously bullshit.

1:53:27 And it worked so well for the first three years, go back to masks, then go back to isolation as if the isolation didn't kill countless people. So yeah, it worked so well the first time, let's do it again. It's insanity, doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. Yeah, he can pull up all the articles admitting the isolation killed tons of people. That's a great point. All right, guys, incredible job. Sorry to Daryl and Chad. I'll call you back tomorrow. Give us your name and number. We've got Roger Stone loaded for bear, big special in the election, huge breaking intel, talks to Trump every day. He's coming up. Gentlemen, thank you so much. Amazing two hours. Been fantastic. Absolutely, glad to be here. And everybody continue to go to Infowarsstore.com, continue to support Amos Miller, continue to fight the right cause because you are the resistance, you are the key. As long as you hold the line, we can all hold the line and protect liberty for the future of America. Areva Frye, where do we find you?